Get the kids back in the pub

Underage drinking would be less of a problem if we just turned a blind eye, says Josie Appleton

LAST UPDATED AT 09:49 ON Tue 26 Aug 2008

I first drank in a pub aged 15 or 16, at which point I must have looked 14 at most. We thought we had 'em fooled, but of course we didn't - hence the humouring smiles from bartenders, and nightclub staff pretending to examine our homemade ID cards. Though the legal drinking age was 18, many landlords turned a blind eye and kept their doors partly ajar.

So it is with some bemusement that I have watched various British police forces cracking down on underage drinkers this summer, using methods normally reserved for smashing international heroin rings.

In Harlow, police have been asking members of the public to pass on underage drinking 'intelligence' anonymously to a special hotline. Officers across the country are sending out 15- and 16-year-old decoys, to test the resolution of off-licenses and pubs (one Leicestershire man who helped an undercover young person buy alcohol was threatened with prosecution and a £5,000 fine).

Others are swooping in evening raids on parks and recreation grounds where young people hang out (the Home Office calls these areas 'underage drinking hotspots'). Earlier in August, officers busted a dozen under-18s at a Blackpool nightclub, who apparently offered 'very convincing' excuses for their misfitting ID card photos, including  'I have had my hair cut', 'I have lost weight' and 'The photo was taken some years ago'.

The tacit tolerance of 16-18-year-old drinking has been replaced with a tacit intolerance of 18-21 drinking. For the past few years, supermarkets and pubs have exhibited 'Think 21' signs. Scotland has now raised this to a 'Think 25' policy.

Every few months somebody proposes reviewing the minimum drinking age, looking longingly at America's prohibitionary hangover of over-21. This probably won't happen. But, still, 18- to 21-year olds are increasingly subject to various forms of state chaperoning, with London and Scotland proposing to bar them from buying booze at supermarkets and off-licences. Last year, a think tank even suggested making 18-21s carry 'smart cards' to record their evening's drinks (it would be a criminal offence to serve them if they had consumed more than three units).

So, official puritanism clashes with public drinking mores. For most young people, drinking is an accepted part of social life, and they often start before 18. A Facebook group campaigning against the raising of the booze-buying age to 21 has attracted 15,000 members, incredulous at this attempt to "discriminate against a group with full legal rights". Indeed - how absurd
that adults who can vote, buy a house and have children, can't buy a can of lager at the corner shop.

How did a few young people with a few cans of Fosters become a crime issue of the summer? Police statements invoke disorderly youth running rampant in the streets - they see alcohol as fuel for 'anti-social behaviour' and a host of other ills.

No doubt some unruly youth are roaming the streets, but this is partly because they are now completely barred from pubs.

The truth is that pubs were great civilisers: it meant that you learnt to drink around adults, according to adult rules. You were there on special permission, so you didn't want to do anything stupid or make a fool of yourself. As a result, turning 18 wasn't a blast of fireworks with the overnight discovery of demon drink: by 18 you knew what to do.

Officials claim they want a French-style café-drinking culture, but they forget that in France young people drink earlier and more gradually, in a family or community context, as part of growing up and entering adult society. By contrast, in the United States, where they are barred from touching a drop till 21, they carry on like overgrown 16-year-olds through to their early twenties.

There is little the government can do about when teenagers start to experiment with alcohol. The question is where they do it, and on whose terms. Looking back, I cannot help but conclude that 'turning a blind eye' was a more civilised - and civilising - approach to the matter than the current summer crackdown. · 

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Graduated drinking under adult supervision with consequences for "anti-social" behaviour sounds good to me. We had a strict 21 yr age limit here (Canada), so we drank in the cars we could own & drive at 16 endangering everyone on the road or in the car, we could work or have sex (or both) at 14, pay income taxes, drive & buy motor vehicles, join the military or marry at 16 (couldn't marry in the forces until 21), but we could not drink or vote until age 21 yrs. Insane! That adults (age 18) might be banned from drinking until 19 is an insult - which some provinces insist on in Canada. Thanks - how about if I don't pay taxes until I'm 19? HAH! Pub staff are required by law to see the ID of anyone who :looks younger than 26 yrs" Why? It's legal for anyone over 18 to drink. Insane laws! Don't follow our lead. Restore your old laws & freedoms.

Absolutely! I've been trying to get this idea across to people for a while now. Vilifying kids for drinking a lager shandy at 15 is as sad and pathetic as vilifying parents for mixing them for their kids. No-one thinks that at 17 kids should be allowed to jump in a car and drive off, yet this seems to be the thinking with alcohol. Extending and tightening the ban is the wrong way. But the last 15 years of NuLabour has seen more and more bans for things as trivial as sole traders smoking in their own company vehicle, so we need a sea change in thinking. And a change of government.

I think this article has it completely right- in my local supermarket I have noticed signs appearing saying that drink will not be sold to anyone who appears to be under 25. This is becoming a ridiculous situation. A 16 year old is sitting at the till refusing to sell alcohol to someone who is about 24 (but looks younger, lucky them) The french attitude to youngsters and alcohol is right, we however blunder on, with the old dogma-ban it, up the age limit- ban it again, up the age limit further. I'm waiting for the signs to start reading 30

There have been recommendations from over 100 University presidents in the U.S. to change the legal drinking age back to 18 in order to prevent binge drinking parties by under age drinkers. The idea is that if it's legal the allure of "underground" drinking parties will be removed to supervised, safe drinking establishments. Mothers Against Drunk Drivers, (a Puritanical American Prohibition style group in America) has said it will lobby Congress against any attempt to lower the drinking age.

I doubt there will be any success to lower the drinking age to 18 for young Americans, so I propose we raise the age when they can go off to war to say, 65!

How true!!!

I was drinking in pubs at 14/15, but I did everything I could NOT to draw attention to myself. I only had one or two vodka and limes all evening (I thought that was a terribly sophisticated drink!) and would sit and take in the atmosphere of other pub-goers. I learned very early on how to behave and other under-age drinkers like me were always horrified at badly-behaved drunks, no matter what their age.

My kids have not had this "growing up" experience. We allow them to drink sensibly at home (they are 16 and 18, so one is now legally allowed in the pub) but most of their friends drink in the parks or at their mates' when the parents are out, which obviously results in drunken chaos and misery without the supervision they need.

Let 16 year olds back in the pubs, for heavens sake!

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