Muslim leaders hit back at Cameron on extremism

David Cameron with Angela Merkel in Germany

What they are saying about Cameron's big speech on the failures of British multi-culturalism

LAST UPDATED AT 09:48 ON Sat 5 Feb 2011

David Cameron's bold decision to say in a speech today that Britain's attempts at state-sponsored multi-culturalism have failed - and that the country needs a stronger national identity in order to root out political extremism - has provoked immediate controversy.

Addressing a security conference in Munich, the Prime Minister will argue that under the "doctrine of state multi-culturalism", different cultures have been encouraged to live separate lives.

"We have failed to provide a vision of society to which they feel they want to belong. We have even tolerated these segregated communities behaving in ways that run counter to our values."

He will say that no one who lives here should be ambiguous about British values such as equality between sexes, democracy and integration. To belong in Britain is to believe in these values.

He will blame the last Labour government for muddled thinking and for backing a state-sponsored form of multiculturalism which has led to a situation where "some organisations that seek to present themselves as a gateway to the Muslim community are showered with public money while doing little to combat extremism. This is like turning to a rightwing fascist party to fight a violent white supremacist movement."

Cameron - whose speech was made available in advance of the Munich conference - will say that his coalition government intends to bring much greater scrutiny to those Muslim groups that receive public money but that do little to tackle extremism.

The timing of Cameron's speech has been criticised: it comes on a day when the viciously Islamophobic English Defence League is due to stage its biggest demonstration yet in Britain, which right-wing groups from across Europe threatening to join their rally in Luton. Clashes between the EDL and anti-fascist and British Muslim protesters are feared.

WHAT MUSLIM LEADERS ARE SAYING ABOUT THE SPEECH:

Inayat Bunglawala, chair of the anti-extremist group Muslims4Uk: "Mr Cameron's remarks are ill-judged and deeply patronising. The overwhelming majority of UK Muslims are proud to be British and are appalled by the antics of a tiny group of extremists and so will hardly be pleased with his lecture on integration.

Mohammed Shafiq, chief executive of the Ramadhan Foundation, a Muslim youth group: "British Muslims abhor terrorism and extremism and we have worked hard to eradicate this evil from our country... To suggest that we do not sign up to the values of tolerance, respect and freedom is deeply offensive and incorrect."

Dr Faisal Hanjra, assistant secretary general of the Muslim Council of Britain: "We were hoping that with a new government, with a new coalition, that there'd be a change in emphasis in terms of counter-terrorism and dealing with the problem at hand. Again it just seems the Muslim community is very much in the spotlight, being treated as part of the problem as opposed to part of the solution."

Ajmal Masroor, of the Islamic Society of Britain: "I think he's confusing a couple of issues: national identity and multiculturalism along with extremism are not connected. Extremism comes about as a result of several other factors." · 

Comments

The World Cup app failed. Now we have them (Merkel incl) looking for the another killer app to win the next election. BTW-what does Cameron think of his fellow neighbours,the Pollards - taking an annual holiday in Israel for AK47 training with the IDF or regularly rifling the pensions pockets (at the stock market) of the clientele at the Sum Dum Goy Chinese (like Maxwell)? Are they British, is HE British!!!?

A modicum of a valid interpretation of the current state of affairs within the islamic communities & a befitting analysis of the 'rational-defying' notion of multiculturalism, which is anathema to any of our liberal western democracies. The fools who promoted this folly have had their reward, western culture (what there is of it!) has been sufficiently eroded as to be irreparable --- And remember this is 'callmedave' a con-artist extraordinaire --- What is his angle? He'll do anything for a vote!

Im amazed when the press automatically go to 'moderates' for reaction on these issues. Inayat Bunglawala distributed writings by Osama Bin laden in 2001 and called him a 'freedom fighter'. He was brought to Islam by Maududi, a cleric who founded Jamaat-e-Islami and thinks non-muslims are barbarians and should have to be ruled under Sharia Law. Google, Maududi and see what a free democratic thinker he is.

The question that nobody wants to ask is what exactly is a moderate Muslim? If you believe in death for apostasy, jail for apostasy, death / jail for homosexuals, reduced witness rights for women and non muslims in court (in reference to a romans testimony is only worth 1/2 a mans in sharia law), if believe in forced marriage (see the news yesterday in Pakistan 14 yo would not marry 50 yo cousin was killed by family), where on these issues, that are very different to the values of the west do you become moderate or extremist?

"And yet a significant portion of British Muslims think that such behaviour is not merely right, but a religious obligation: a survey by the think-tank Policy Exchange, for instance, revealed that 36 per cent of young Muslims believe that those who leave Islam should be killed."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1571970/Muslim-apostates-threaten...

36 percent, and even more including those who think they should be jailed. I personally dont consider those people moderate and do think Cameron is right, MI5 this week said British born suicide bombers were on the increase to a level where they cannot stop them all.

The apologist answer is each citizen must work with the rule of the country, yet we don't accept this for the far right. We don't allow nazi's in europe to say and preach hatred for jews or homosexuals, so why do we allow it in Islam? People, including the press are too scared to challenge people like Inayat on these issues, so there will never be open and free knowledge.

The first rule of winning a debate is to close down the conversation. Make people unable to raise the issue, call them Islamophobic, Racist, Zionists etc. This is the job of people like the MCB, CAIR etc do extremely well.

Inayat Bunglawala is chair of this group.
http://muslims4uk.org.uk/
There aim is to stop extremism, but all they seem to do is defend it. They should be embracing these comments, supporting them and defining what we will accept in a modern society.

Blimey. He's just noticed then.

Are the rest of the Westminster Windbags still in denial, or are they coming out of their collective coma?

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