Politics of Mark Carney: SNP and Labour have cause to shudder

Jan 30, 2014
The Mole

With his warning to the Scots and his comments on Labour's bank reforms, has the Governor gone too far?

IS MARK CARNEY, Governor of the Bank of England, getting too political? It's a question raised, not for the first time, after yesterday's intervention over sterling appeared to put the skids under Alex Salmond's Yes campaign for Scottish independence.
Carney told an audience of business figures after meeting Salmond at Bute House that if Scotland wanted a durable, successful currency union with the Bank of England then it will require "some ceding of national sovereignty" by Scotland.
The Scotsman today reports a Scottish Government spokesman accepting Carney's point that there would have to be a sharing of risk and fiscal stability across Scotland and what remained of the UK.
"Any independent government looks at pooling sovereignty on a range of fronts," the spokesman told the paper. "This is done when it is in the country's interests to pool sovereignty, and rules and structures are put in place. We would still be responsible for our own taxation."
Which raises the question: what is the point of Scottish independence and the Great Scottish Referendum later this year?
As James Kirkup, political correspondent of the Daily Telegraph, put it in his ‘evening briefing' yesterday, Carney has "lobbed a hand grenade into the Scottish independence debate".
Kirkup's colleague Ben Brogan added this morning: "Mr Carney delivered an unpalatable home truth to Mr Salmond: you can have independence, or the pound, but not both; and if Scotland were to join a currency union with Britain, it would have to hand over more fiscal powers than countries in the eurozone currently have to.
"The intervention clearly represents a setback for Mr Salmond. As our leader points out, ‘Independence would not only leave the Scots in a materially precarious situation but, ironically, less free than before'."
But the far more significant message that has emerged from Carney's intervention  - at least for those south of the border who won't get a say in the referendum - is the extent to which he is prepared to engage in highly controversial political issues, and how that may read across to his relations with Ed Balls, Labour's shadow chancellor, and George Osborne, the Tory Chancellor who appointed him.
As Kirkup put it yesterday, "Despite his eloquent protestations to the contrary, he [Carney] is turning out to be a rather political governor."
Indeed, this is not the first time Carney has tip-toed into the political arena.
Soon after arriving at the Bank from Canada last year, Carney and the Monetary Policy Committee (MPC) issued forward advice to the City that serious consideration would be given to raising interest rates when unemployment fell to seven per cent.
Last week unemployment fell to 7.1 per cent - threatening a rise in interest rates that could choke off all those home-buyers boosting the economy through mortgages and purchases of household goods to fill their new homes and, in one fell swoop, scupper Osborne's plans.
But Carney immediately indicated that there was no immediate increase in interest rates in prospect. That got a big sigh of relief from the Treasury. But was it an economic decision, or a political one?
And that's not all. When the news broke earlier this month that Ed Miliband wanted to impose a limit on the market share of individual banks, Carney was asked for his view by members of the Commons Treasury select committee.
"Just breaking up an institution doesn't necessarily create or enable a more intensive competitive structure," the Carney responded. A cap on market share, he said, would "not result in substantial improvement to competition".
As one of the BBC political team, Chris Mason, commented at the time, Carney also made it clear that he didn't favour Miliband's other big idea – a cap on banker's bonuses.

When shadow business secretary Chuka Umunna was asked later about Carney's remarks, he responded coolly: "I actually had an exchange in July 2010 with Mark Carney's predecessor, then Sir Mervyn King. He made it very clear to me that it is not a good thing for governors of the Bank of England to be involved in political matters."

Labour's shadow Treasury team will be watching like hawks to see if the Governor takes decisions in the run-up to the 2015 general election that can be construed as "political" to help Osborne win re-election for the Conservatives.
Carney and his team might deny that anything so crude could possibly happen at the Bank of England, but don't underestimate the room for conflict between Chancellors and the Governor. We now know, thanks to Damian McBride's memoirs, that back in 2004 when Gordon Brown was Chancellor he issued a four-letter tirade against Mervyn King (albeit over the CIA spying on us rather than the economy).
McBride recalls how Brown told King he was talking "f***ing bull****" when he said he had a duty to speak out and that it was his "f***ing ego dictating his position, not his duty to the country".
You can expect Ed Balls to say something similar if there is any suggestion of Carney acting politically from his perch in Threadneedle Street.

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Is it "political" to point out important economic facts? Most people have no understanding of the economics of currency areas and the VERY serious problems that can arise where the areas or severely sub-optimal (in spite of the mess of the Euro).

"w Brown told King he was talking "f***ing bull****" when he said he had a duty to speak out and that it was his "f***ing ego dictating his position, not his duty to the country"."

King outlasted Brown and, it seems from the recent upturn King predicted, did a much better job.

"Which raises the question: what is the point of Scottish independence and the Great Scottish Referendum later this year?"

What utter drivel. Like most of the London media the Mole has accepted hook, line and sinker Westminster's spin on Carney's speech - to which it had early access.

The BBC's reporting of his trip over the border only served to underline why large swathes of the Scottish public have lost trust in their "national" broadcaster.

Oh and more mendacity from the Daily Telegraph than the stomach can bear.

Sharing a central bank is what will happen after a Yes vote in September because it will more than suit both nations. And Carney will ensure that the political decision, once made, will work effectively.

If it was such a dumb non-starter why has Westminster simply stated that formally sharing Sterling will not happen? They haven't and they won't.

And that was why Carney kept his comments neutral yesterday.

Jeeze, Mr Mole do you think we are all zipped up the back?

Do you have any idea of the issues that common currency areas raise?

You sound more like a mouthy dimbo than a knowledgeable person.

The example quoted several times is "What happens of world oil/gas prices fall, reducing Scottish income and stimulating the rest of the UK?"

"That is just one example."

What happens in a currency union between UK & Scotland as separate countries? I'll tell you one thing, a few piddly sweaties won't have much influence!

And you sound like an attention seeking troll...

If he made a political point it was macropolitical, not party political. Somebody's got to help the SNP smell the coffee, they're freezing out anybody in Scotland who points out inconvenient truths to them.

Regardless of what Carney and his prejudiced pro Westminster rhetoric imply - just go for it Scotland. It isn't just about the economy stooped, (to paraphrase Clinton) it goes much much deeper and wider than that.-

As an Englishman, with a Scottish Granny, and not entitled to vote in this referendum, you cannot expect me [or the Bank of England] to guarantee Scottish expenditure if it exceeds the taxes that the SNP government raises. I am not afraid to quote the Greek irresponsibility of not raising taxes to pay for their expenditure when the Scottish YES people seem to want the same rights for themselves.

I suppose Lena means "stupid" or is stooped a word with a Scottish meaning?