Would smacking children have stopped the London riots?

David Lammy

Does smacking make children behave, or send the message that violence gets results?

LAST UPDATED AT 12:42 ON Tue 31 Jan 2012

THE LABOUR MP for Tottenham, David Lammy, has suggested that parents should be given more freedom to smack their children after people in his constituency blamed last summer's riots on not being able to discipline their children. Many, he said, were afraid of smacking their children, in case they were taken away by child welfare authorities. Some commentators agree that the current smacking law, introduced by Labour in 2004, makes it difficult for parents to set boundaries. Others argue that smacking only teaches children bad behaviour, and should never be condoned by the law.
 
Better than jail

Thank you, David Lammy, blogged Christina Odone for The Daily Telegraph, for trying to deliver parents from a crazy scenario where "they are scared of laying a hand on, or even shouting at, the little wretches, lest the child‑snatchers come".
 
Parents, particularly working-class parents, who can't pay for shrinks or get their GPs to prescribe Ritalin, can feel they have little authority over their children. "A good spanking may not work miracles; but it is less harmful than pills and cheaper than jail."
 
What nonsense

What a load of nonsense, Laurie Penny told a Channel 4 News debate. The assertion that the riots were somehow the result of a failure of parenting is a "massive rewriting of history". It ignores the present breakdown of society and growing civil unrest and presumes that "if we had only beaten our children a little bit harder they would have stayed quietly at home while young men in their community were shot".   
 
Law should be clearer

London Mayor Boris Johnson told BBC 5's Pienaar's Politics that parents should be given a clear statement from the government explaining that when it comes to smacking children "the benefit of the doubt should be given to parents". A lot of parents "feel confused about what exactly they can do and can't do".  
 
Smacking isn't actually banned...

The law is clear, says Zoe Williams in The Guardian. It doesn't ban all smacking - only a smack that is hard enough to leave a red mark. Children might not have many rights, but they do have some. You can't kill your kid if he is naughty, or break his bones. So the law obviously has a role interpolating itself somewhere between the parent and the child, "and if it's not at the stage beyond reddening the skin, where on earth is it?"

... But it's wrong

Hitting children is wrong and the law should say so, says John Rentoul in The Independent. "The law has an important secondary role, of declaring that some things are unacceptable, even if it is not practical to enforce such norms."

Smacking may teach children that certain behaviour is unacceptable, says Dreda Say Mitchell in The Guardian. But it also teaches "that violence and threats are an effective way of getting the response you want". · 

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For thousands of years Parents have disciplined their children. The species has survived, most people know right from wrong, and the care and control of children has always been the duty of the Parents.

Now, the first person who might hit these wretches is the police officer in seeking to subdue them.

A nation of spoiled brats.
David Lammy is so so right. Parents, especially those from the Caribbean and perhaps other parts of the non European world, are utterly confused and feel quite helpless about disciplining their children. And let us make no mistake about it, there is a huge difference between smacking as a dsciplinary tool and a brutal beating. I hardly ever needed to smack any of our four sons, and my husband not at all, but then they were brought up in a time and place where certain defined norms of behaviour were clear. We allowed and even encouraged discourse, but never disrespect. And this was expected in schools as well, where they were expected to extend that same courtesy to their teachers. Teachers could also function better and everyone benefitted from  better behaviour. I am very happy not to be bringing up children anywhere today, especially in the so called developed world and my sympathies are indeed with parents.